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Ever hear of franchises? you pay money to a HUGE ...<br />Ever hear of franchises? you pay money to a HUGE company to operate under their name and sell their products and services. where have we seen this before?khairul044http://www.empowernetwork.com/Dwaynepyle/the-most-trusted-amway-review-what-you-need-to-know-about-the-benefits-and-issues-in-amway/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054391111895623944.post-48204097865022681462012-09-23T13:36:54.666-04:002012-09-23T13:36:54.666-04:00Diamond3...
You sure have been oversold on Amway....Diamond3...<br /><br />You sure have been oversold on Amway. Isn't it your money that keeps the Amway Cult Initiators out of debt? I'll bet that can't be said for all the suckers that cough up their PV month to month to stay in the the scheme.quixtarisaculthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07051645876072252255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054391111895623944.post-83850445783118490022012-09-21T11:34:13.471-04:002012-09-21T11:34:13.471-04:00Whoever started this blog I am assuming had to be ...Whoever started this blog I am assuming had to be an IBO at some point and quit the business and comes up with reasons why Amway is a cult and blames Amway for their own lack of work ethic. If you knew anything, IBOs do NOT work for Amway, Amway is the debt free, multi Billion dollar company that provides distribution for the products and has been around for over 50 years. There is NO cult and there is absolutely no way a company could be around and debt free for over 50 years if it was "scam". This kind of crap disgusts me. If you KNEW anything about business, you would know that pyramids are HIGHLY illegal and Amway is closely followed by the FTC. It is a performace based business and you can pass the person that sponsored you if you do MORE than them. Instead of writing ridiculous blogs about how this business doesn't work, do some legit research and get your facts straight.Diamond3https://www.blogger.com/profile/04568664128546158081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054391111895623944.post-10842094354806596972012-06-13T10:32:41.254-04:002012-06-13T10:32:41.254-04:00anonymous...
Saying that it is a business doesn&#...anonymous...<br /><br />Saying that it is a business doesn't in my mind legitimize anything. Organized crime has been hiding behind so called legitimate business for some time. <br /><br />It might be possible to blame 'uplines' for failure in the Amway business, but that failure comes more from products that are effectively priced as to be unsellable to a retail market from the start, where nearly all supposed 'distributors' must become the only real 'customers'. A business that consumes its own stock is a losing business. <br /><br />Uplines effectively keep a secondary pyramid scheme operating. Surely you understand how the tool scam works?quixtarisaculthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07051645876072252255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054391111895623944.post-54554425574104671392012-06-12T17:00:34.802-04:002012-06-12T17:00:34.802-04:00Let me first say that Amway is a legit company wit...Let me first say that Amway is a legit company with great products and affiliations with hundreds of other legit corporations here in the US and abroad.<br /><br />The reason more people don't succeed in this business is because most uplines doom them from the get go. I recently attended a meeting and stayed for a "training" after the meeting. The person conducting the meeting suggested that all aspects of one's life be consulted upline from buying a car to dating and selecting a mate. Unbelievable. <br /><br />It's a business, and if people treated it as such, more would have a chance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054391111895623944.post-63413287734478074092012-02-10T13:58:55.110-05:002012-02-10T13:58:55.110-05:00Weijie...
We could probably debate this forever, ...Weijie...<br /><br />We could probably debate this forever, which I don't plan on doing. You seem to make some rather incorrect assumptions about the Amway company. First, they are a private company, and therefore, do not make their financial information public, nor are they required to. They are not a publicly traded company. <br /><br />You mention that there is a money back guarantee. That may be true, but when a supposed 'distributor' buys these products for self consumption--not retail sales--the 'distributor' is consuming his or her own inventory. This results in a business loss. All other expenses--like buying the 'tools' and paying for all other 'overhead' is also an expense of the business that these so called businessmen must absorb. I failed to mention the cost of attending the myriad 'functions' which are an additional expense of operating 'your own business.'<br /><br />My friend and author David Brear describes what actually happens to these 'core' Amway adherents as the 'financial holocaust'. Many sworn testimonials exist describing how devotees of the Amway cult lose in the thousands of dollars. Possibly you should read the blog of Dr. Robert Fitzpatrick: False Profits Blog. <br /><br />Amway portrays itself as a legit marketing company with a multilevel marketing plan. They in actuality have very few actual retail customers, and it is the cult believers that buy the 'PV' values each and every month to stay 'active' in the 'dream' of getting rich in the Amway business. <br /><br />Weijie, you seem like an intelligent person. If you are already involved, I'd still continue to research and find out what this 'bad business' has done for others. If you feel satisfied that all is above board and that you can make money in Amway, then by all means "Go for it!"quixtarisaculthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07051645876072252255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054391111895623944.post-89215636153055802492012-02-09T22:10:22.974-05:002012-02-09T22:10:22.974-05:00I don't think that just because they can last ...I don't think that just because they can last means that they are legit. But this industry is not one that have some special concession where people do not probe too deeply, unlike certain things like religion, etc. So being able to be around for half a century should count for something.<br />[The basis of which I think they are legit is based more on the compensation plan which I have pointed out previously that I've found it to be sustainable for both the corporation and distributors. Essentially it very similar to most insurance companies too, but with tangible products instead of financial services.]<br /><br />Moreover, I find that the impression Amway products aren't being retailed to be way too outlandish. There is a genuine demand for good quality products and Amway products does fulfil that role. In any case, retail profits is but just a part of the compensation plan and not the main bulk of it, so it won't be surprising if not everyone focus a lot on sales, but having a healthy (however small) client/retail base is necessary to qualify for many of the Amway bonuses.<br /><br />Amway does have actual products, and they are being retailed to retail clients as well as being consumed by distributors. [At least from my own experience and those of my team and mentors -> which may not count for much as 'hard evidence', but at least I've seen a system where it can be sustainable and duplicatable.]<br /><br />Anyway, the cartoon is not saying that there are many 'pryamid schemes' XD, its simply pointing out that in many areas, its few people at the top and many at the bottom as an organizational structure. The difference between those and an Amway's structure is that there isn't a maximum cap of the number of people that can progress and advance to the next level, unlike most companies where by unless there is a huge growth, new positions above you won't likely open up without people leaving etc..<br /><br />Lastly, I believe it takes quite a genius to lose money in Amway, in most countries, most of the products you buy comes with a money back guarantee, meaning if one don't find it satisfactory in any way, one can simply return it to Amway and get a refund within certain periods like 90 days, even the registration fee has money back within a certain period of time in most regions Amway operates in.Weijiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17993030934000125154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054391111895623944.post-63771349819565010922012-02-09T14:54:52.027-05:002012-02-09T14:54:52.027-05:00Weijie...
You seem to think that the Amway Scam&#...Weijie...<br /><br />You seem to think that the Amway Scam's longevity somehow makes it legit, profitable, respectable, etc.. What you fail to recognize is that Amway and most any MLM relies on new investors, new recruits, new adherents. Amway has acted more like a meat grinder. The losers leave the 'game' while the newbies take their place, all piling up loses. It is much the same way a 3-Card Monte game operates. Amway recruits not distributors, but people who want to believe in the Amway myths, and who in the end become frustrated and fall out after losing, er spending and investing time. Amway's cult initiators profit each and every time one of these so called 'business owners' makes a purchase, but do these erstwhile business people--who generally self consume their own inventory? <br /><br />I have seen the cartoon. It seems to make the 'tape-speak' argument that says nearly all things are some form of pyramid scheme or another. Things like Social Security, or your job. I just don't buy into that line of reasoning. I do believe in the axiom that 'nothing ventured--nothing gained', but there are good ventures and insane ventures, with MLM's falling into the insane category. <br /><br />You are free to believe in them if you so desire. I'd suggest some type of marketing scheme where actual product can and does get retailed. Something more like Avon. Steer clear of Amway, who's products are designed and priced to be unsellable (except to the suckers who sign on as 'distributors').quixtarisaculthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07051645876072252255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054391111895623944.post-80261342731492986832012-02-09T12:05:50.906-05:002012-02-09T12:05:50.906-05:00I appreciate your reply as well.
And I do agree a...I appreciate your reply as well.<br /><br />And I do agree and recognize that there are many scams out there that take the front of a Mlm (among other things..) which you pointed out, have no customers and usually can only be sustained if there were perpetual expansion/recruitment of new members, etc. <br /><br />And such companies can crumble easily when subject to a simple audit.<br /><br />However, there are many Mlm companies that are actually listed companies and are constantly subject to external audits and if such models are not sustainable, it would likely have been pointed out within the first few years of such audits.<br /><br />In any case, the compensation plan of Amway is sustainable and can only work if there are movement of products. Even if all the movement of products were arranged in such a way where by the maximum amount of all bonuses would be paid out, there would still be surplus left for Amway Corporation itself for its retained earnings to be used for R&D etc..<br /><br />Anyway, not being closed down yet does not mean that its legal as you correctly pointed it out, but for a scam to have been around for the past 52 going 53 years and having to prove its case over and over again for that long a period of time that it has a system that can work and is legitimate is truly insanely hard to accomplish, unless of course it actually is legal, and sustainable etc.<br /><br />Hope I don't end up being unclear or ungrammatical with the long sentences. XD<br /><br />I do appreciate the respect you give to fellow commenters though. =)<br /><br />Oh and I found the video below does share many insightful points.<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZiw15VgWoIWeijiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17993030934000125154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054391111895623944.post-17017310128267603652012-02-09T10:04:55.776-05:002012-02-09T10:04:55.776-05:00Weijie...
Some Governments are waking up to the A...Weijie...<br /><br />Some Governments are waking up to the Amway menace. Courts have also correctly determined how MLM scammers have no real customers. Even here in the U.S. Amway has settled Pyramid Scheme allegations out of court to the tune of millions of dollars. <br /><br />Of course, your comments are welcome. You basically repeat Amway's best argument for legitimacy, and that is the fact that they haven't been shut down. That really isn't a good argument to make to prospective initiates. Amway operates like the mafia, and as far as I can determine, the mafia hasn't been shut down either.quixtarisaculthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07051645876072252255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054391111895623944.post-8636561803557210112012-02-08T22:13:49.302-05:002012-02-08T22:13:49.302-05:00Strange. When I do compare apple for apple product...Strange. When I do compare apple for apple products between nutrilite and x-brands at retail prices, nutrilite almost always end up being cheaper.<br /><br />Amway is a business, and profit is not a foreign concept for businesses. earnings profits is fine, profiteering is not.<br /><br />If you're not happy with the service provided to you at retail price, sign up and get it at distributor price yourself.<br /><br />FYI, strangely 93 over different governments see nothing wrong with Amway and allowed Amway to operate in their country. But well, I guess you guys are way smarter than all 93 governements. =)<br /><br />It was a fun read anyway to know what misconceptions people in the scam business like to spin out. =)Weijiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17993030934000125154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054391111895623944.post-78072763045026924542011-10-02T02:40:48.319-04:002011-10-02T02:40:48.319-04:00anonymous... you seem to avoid the issues I raise...anonymous... you seem to avoid the issues I raise. You sidetrack the back and forth with trivial matters. Do you believe it is such a trivial matter to have one's funds extracted by a carefully contrived scheme; or simply believe 'you get what you pay for.' Hey, Jack of Bean stock fame got what he paid for. For you Amway people, that was a fairy tale!quixtarisaculthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07051645876072252255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054391111895623944.post-75420194697397487812011-10-01T06:22:02.789-04:002011-10-01T06:22:02.789-04:00Kochi, Aug. 6:
The police on Friday carried out ...Kochi, Aug. 6: <br /><br />The police on Friday carried out searches at nine Amway centres in three districts in Kerala as part of the ongoing drive against money chain activities and cheating through multi-level marketing campaigns.<br /><br />The team under Mr J. Jayanath, Superintendent of Police, Wayanad, searched the head office of the Amway at Kochi and also its office at Kottayam. The raids were also conducted in Thiruvananthapuram, Kollam, Thrissur, Kozhikode and Palakkad.<br /><br />The police said that cases had been registered against the company at Kannur, Wayanad, and Thrissur following complaints of cheating.<br /><br />Meanwhile, Amway in a statement said the police action has come as ‘rude shock' and surprise. A fair investigation demands that the company be notified about the nature of complaint received for such a sweeping inquiry, it said.<br /><br />The multi-level marketing and direct selling company stated that it had been receiving complaints from distributors over the past one month that they were being called to police stations and being ‘harassed' to give complaints against the company. This is another step in the direction of ‘high handedness' of some police officials, the statement said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054391111895623944.post-45719699716274936742011-09-19T12:27:20.451-04:002011-09-19T12:27:20.451-04:00anonymous...I have been somewhat ambivalent about ...anonymous...I have been somewhat ambivalent about Amway of late. If someone really wants to be burned by Amway, who am I to stop them? They have been forewarned. The information about MLM frauds like Amway is readily available. If people want to hide their head in the sand like an ostrich and believe all that Ambots say about Amway, well, isn't it their money going in the rat hole? <br /><br />Have you ever read the USA Today article <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/retail/2011-02-07-multilevelmarketing03_CV_N.htm" rel="nofollow">Multilevel marketing or 'pyramid?' Sales people find it hard to earn much</a>? I ask this because I've noticed that the mainstream press sometimes does a relatively good job of describing MLM 'opportunities' as the incredible 'long shot' that it really is.quixtarisaculthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07051645876072252255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054391111895623944.post-21497102092540454422011-09-19T09:11:21.759-04:002011-09-19T09:11:21.759-04:00Its either something works for you or not. If it d...Its either something works for you or not. If it doesn't get out of it, it works for you stay in it. We have all been blessed with brains to discern whether something is good or bad. Yes you are opinionated but lets leave each individual to discern for himself/herself. You are not perfect yourself and not everything you do is worthit in the eyes of others so get over yourself and leave those who see it as a lucritive business to go ahead and do it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054391111895623944.post-88245315715451784232011-09-11T15:42:49.847-04:002011-09-11T15:42:49.847-04:00Anonymous... Hey I posted your comment. I have no...Anonymous... Hey I posted your comment. I have no problems with those who hold a different view of things. I really have no problem with Nutrilite vitamin quality; they are on par with vitamins that sell for around $5 everday. Quality is not really the issue being raised, but the price is! <br /><br />Take some common plant materials, boil them, and compress them into 'vitamin' capsules and sell these magic beans for upwards of $70 for a 30 day supply. That's the issue. They are priced to be basically unsellable. The supposed distributors themselves are the primary customers in this <i>'closed market swindle.'</i> And while the product costs relatively little to produce in mass, the price indicates a money extracting scheme.quixtarisaculthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07051645876072252255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054391111895623944.post-21552921025335198942011-09-11T10:54:51.113-04:002011-09-11T10:54:51.113-04:00Why would anyone believe you? Are you a physician?...Why would anyone believe you? Are you a physician? Let's get real, physicians and the American Medical Association have been selling the American people "snake-oil" and dreams of a cure, since the medical INDUSTRY began. How many drugs have cost someone their life. OOPS! Maybe Nutrilite isn't a cure all but neither is our medical "professionals". The only difference I see is that physicians have a LICENCE to steal and murder. Bottom line, don't like it? Don't but it. I see that the blogger must "approve" all comments. That means no one will see this comment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054391111895623944.post-81675299338348543952011-08-26T17:25:54.253-04:002011-08-26T17:25:54.253-04:00anonymous...
At least I am being fair in posting ...anonymous...<br /><br />At least I am being fair in posting your comment. Belief in the powers of pills and potions isn't uncommon. You take three different colored pills a couple times a day, which is very reinforcing. You believe they work and therefore they work. Placebos work. Aspirin works, and I suppose vitamins work to some degree. <br /><br />In a product based pyramid scheme, the products are unimportant, except for their price. Former distributors in Amway brought suit against Amway alleging, truthfully I might add, that the Amway products were priced to be unsalable. Amway agreed to settle the dispute out of court to the tune of over 100 million dollars. A small price to pay to bottle up this ugly truth. <br /><br />Nutrilite vitamins are the flagship product of the Amway cult initiators, who lifted the idea from the late Carl Rehnborg with whom the government was prepared to roll up as a scheme. Now isn't it time for the DOJ to roll up this current Amway Mob?quixtarisaculthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07051645876072252255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054391111895623944.post-34960833377832327062011-08-26T16:33:37.324-04:002011-08-26T16:33:37.324-04:00Regardless, It's undeniable the effects Nutril...Regardless, It's undeniable the effects Nutrilite has on the human body. I'm a very active, supplmented personal trainer, and haven't found anything that makes me feel better.<br /><br />Myself, along with my old supplier make a fortune selling these products to clientele. Ultimately, I make money, I am extrememly fit, and can't help but promote the benefits.<br /><br />Your argument is that it doesn't work. Yeah, well, neither does Wii Fit. Your opinion is heavily uneducated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1054391111895623944.post-91043314340495411122011-08-16T22:34:38.719-04:002011-08-16T22:34:38.719-04:00What am I doing with my life? Enjoying it. Not be...What am I doing with my life? Enjoying it. Not being fleeced like many other er, cough cough, bidnizmen who read and comment on this blog. Isn't that against the rules by the way?quixtarisaculthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07051645876072252255noreply@blogger.com